@natalie_ng said in Perceived Innocence of WF on racism; Lus and Asian feminism:

You raise an interesting point I never thought of. Extreme right-winged Asian families (the same ones supporting Trump, I suspect) potentially producing a large chunk of Lus and Chans. However, I would think very liberal Asian families that over-emphasize other minorities’ wellbeing over ours would probably have the same effect, except instead of producing white-worshipping Lus/Chans, they produce black/hispanic-worshipping Lus/Chans. Although I guess you could argue the former is worst than the latter since the latter, at least, is aware of the existence of racism.

I think we can add one group here. “Liberal” Asians whose ideology is aligned with liberal whites (“color-blindness”), who think liberal whites/WF feminists are the greatest asset of Asian movements; they actually account for larger percentage than those empathize blacks or Hispanics. They closely follow white Democrats and emphasize cooperation with left-wing whites. Definitely a dead end. Plenty of them on reddit.

@CivilRightsAZN said in Racial Experience: Op-Ed:

myopic Asian leaders think we can always survive by sharing the bus with whites.

Definitely. places like rAsianAmerican are a great example. They prevent any discussion of the truth to look “respectable” to their white masters.

@CivilRightsAZN said in Schrodinger's Asian Men:

It’s weird that their women would choose to mingle with BM, LM over AM. I still don’t figure this out. Why providing their DNA to whiten black is an option, while not Asians? They are not that smart as they claim, although they are trained to “talk wisely” by consistently lying. Please enlighten me.

There are multiple reasons but the biggest one is that it’s better to be feared than to be ridiculed, at least on an individual level. Also, of the stereotypes, it’s better to be too masculine than too feminine for men, at least romantically. At the individual level, there are way too many Asian nerds who have zero sense of attraction. They’re like fat women who complain that men are misogynistic for not dating them. No, the reason is that they’re hideous. Combine that with the racist media that castrates us non-stop, the lies about our penises being tiny, being misogynistic, etc. It’s a total disaster.

Look at the stereotypes, Hispanic men are macho and tough. Black men are masculine with big dicks. Notice the pattern? These are masculine images. Women can at least respond positively to that. They DO NOT respond to “Pathetic weak Asian nerds with tiny dicks”. Think about women. Imagine how embarrassing it is to say I date an Asian man. Her entire social group has been programmed to imagine the most sexless beings possible when they think “Asian man” and she’ll take a big hit in her status. Being so status conscious, many will avoid us like the plague. Whites have created an entire world that controls her choice through social coercion and then calls her submission “preferences”. Now, there are those who blame Asian women for selling out. I can see the argument, but the biggest one is social engineering. Excessively tolerant and peaceful Asians is the other side of the problem. We don’t fight back. Instead, we elevate these sorts of scum and lie to ourselves how “progressive it is” and reinforce lies about how white men are so “egalitarian” when these lunatics rape and kill more Asian women every other week. There’s also the idiotic “I’m the bigger man” nonsense, where Asian men pretend that it doesn’t bother them. This doesn’t solve anything. It only allows the problem to grow. We all must admit there is a big problem and destroy it. Stop “saving face”. We none to save in the West. We’re already a complete joke.

I need to clarify something.

East Asians are geopolitical rivals at the global level. We have higher IQ, a more cooperative culture, longer term thinking, etc. In a world without military superiority [eg mutually assured destruction], Asians have a good chance at winning the “great game”…But potential doesn’t matter to most people’s day to day perception. It’s the clear lines of dominance that matters, which whites have done through hook and crook.

@CivilRightsAZN

Thanks. I appreciate it.

@CivilRightsAZN

They’re basically gas lighting themselves…

● ignorance - they think it is pretty much a past tense.
● denial - they knew that western countries set up sweat factories to pollute China and exploited cheap Chinese labors, but they would ascribe it as “destiny of poor country” instead of “economic colonization”.
● lesser evil - Chinese leaders make announcement to fight Western imperialism, from time to time. It is simply a lip service. / They think cooperation with the West is generally more beneficial than harmful: investment of Western capital helped boost Chinese economy anyway. They feel themselves in a win-win situation.
● inferiority complex - You know there is a “face culture” in China. Chinese people can be exploited/enslaved by the West as long as the West maintains its “face” and recognizes it is currently a rich and strong country.
● victim blaming - many progressive anti-Asians in the East who think Chinese culture is backward and deemed it as a major reason that the East falls behind the West (we know the real reason is colonial oppression). Intellectuals, as especially ones of younger generations, regard abandoning backward tradition of the East as progressive and liberal.

I find the last two particularly appalling.

There is opposition to these views, I hope? eg awareness of Western soft power/propaganda

@asianmovement

Yes. Assimilation is a dead end.

http://forum.asiansoul.org/topic/127/debunked-myths-asians-just-need-to-try-hard-and-assimilate-and-we-ll-be-accepted

Assimilation is a dead end

Assimilation means you are a domesticated pet. They throw you scraps occasionally and pat you on the head. Look at many Muslim groups in the UK. They refuse to integrate and their communities are still intact. Asian integrated and now Af hate Am? We are led by morons who fight against Asian interests. We have afwm “leaders” who lecture us about how to be better Asians. It is 100% crazy.

Why do whites hate us?

They hate you because you’re different. You look different. You sound different. These can never be changed. This is why assimilation will always be a dead end with whites.

ps Other whites like Swedes didn’t do or go through 1/20th as much as us and they were accepted within weeks. Meanwhile, they treat you like dirt after two centuries while ignoring their crimes against you, and lecturing you about non-existent “Western Values”.

@asianmovement Fist bump.

@secondstrike

nice

@secondstrike said in Concerted effort against Asian men:

You realize that if hypothetically, “bad” immigrants are gone, there will be out-competed Whites who will blame “Chinks” [like right now], right?

They get hired right now anyways. Those people can cry all they want. Socially they get stomped right back into the ground.

BTW, the future I expect to be much worse than currently. The reason is that Asia is no longer just some sweat shop. In the next 1 to 2 decades, it will be Asian products that will dominate the world markets. Not only will jobs be gone, but their world-leading brands and products will be gone too. Look up DJI and Huawei. That’s just a small sample.

If automation is really going to have such a huge impact, I think that the big money will be who can create the better “recipes”. If we get to a point where all countries can automate production, then you could see brands and products be a regional thing. Those companies can get taxed and it’ll come back around to people as basic income. The future is bright in my opinion. As long as we don’t get nuked that is.

I’m still waiting on @natalie_ng to get back to me vis a vis talking to my friend about his white wife and in-laws.

@natalie_ng said in Something that I always wondered about:

if one is dumb enough to get brainwashed that much, then maybe one should remove oneself from the human population.

I wish this were a problem that affects a small number of people but it’s not.

Watch 21:00-23:40

@secondstrike Yikes, when you put it that way, that’s definitely something to worry about

@secondstrike Yep, that’s true. They hide behind the idea of their going after Asian women as being “progressive” and “open-minded” but in reality, they’re only going after Asian women because white women actually want respect or want them to put in a bit more effort to impress them.

@secondstrike Yeah you have a point. Unless California starts resisting like crazy and the U.S. gov’t would feel forced to deal with it in more savage ways. I mean, if the American civil war is useful for guessing how this would go, I’d imagined it could still be very bloody. I heard a lot of Americans died in that war, if not more, than most other wars the U.S. has fought. It might go to show that sometimes the whites don’t even treat each other that humanely either…

In any case, if the CALEXIT does happen, we’ll make it great again with a gold rush of golden people moving in

Yeah, that’s the upside.

@secondstrike

It should be but in the case of the Western nations, they brainwashed Asians so hard that there are armies of chans and lus

Well, at least on the upside, there are other POC in western nations who are not as brainwashed and who appear to fight the whites tooth and nail over every single issue. Not just that, but among just the whites themselves, there is a bit of in-fighting as well (bltg, feminism, alt-right, SJW, neo-Nazi, etc…) which sooner or later may wreck havoc on their society in the process.

We cannot assume they have common sense.

That’s depressing.

@bugoutfever Western values alright. I don’t understand the “all WMs are gentlemen” stereotype, especially considering how common it is for them to take advantage of revenge porn, unleash nude photos of exes (or other women), promote TRP, and become douchebag PUAs who believe treating women terribly makes them more attractive. I’m not a big fan of white feminists either but in a lot of ways, I’m glad white feminists exist if it means fighting back against WM douchebaggery.

@natalie_ng This is not something we should fight individually. It’s like chipping away at a mountain with a spoon. This is something that requires institutional muscle and even requires being forced upon people, at least, initially.

I see parallels with orientalist literature but for a different goal. Before that hate-speech disguised as fact, Europeans admired China. If they had a few individuals demonizing China, it wouldn’t take off. It required a huge initial push to make their bs into “common sense”.

The reason I think China is the best bet is that they don’t need to cater to non-Chinese tastes at all due to their market size. They can force a new view without much damage to themselves. Then, what gets popular there, gets popular first with its neighbors and then the rest of the world.

They need to recognize this power and use it.