@natalie_ng said in Thoughts on California's new bill targeted towards only Asian-Americans?:

What about the ones that are legal and/or are born here?

The problem is you can’t talk about legal Hispanic citizens w/o also talking about illegal immigrants. The two are intertwined. 1st-gen immigrants tend to be illegal while their children are legal. Because of this makeup, families involve illegal immigrant parents who work under the table (these jobs may or may not pay bottom of the barrel) while children are legal. That allows them to access welfare, nutrition assistance and health-care.

I’m not exactly sure how well Hispanics do outside of Hispanic enclaves but here in AZ where there’s a significant population and where cost of living is lower, they’re actually not doing too bad here. 2nd generation moved up and getting some white-collar jobs. Not top of the line stuff, but it pays for life here well enough. 3rd-generation are going to college and supposedly Hispanics have the highest likelihood of going to college.

Poverty is a notable barrier and yes, it is SIMILAR to SEA’s problems but they’re poorer than whites and Asians. Remember that for many families, they came here as illegals and therefore the work that they do are under the table and may not be able to afford the same living as Asian-Americans. Asian Americans tend to be legal immigrants and therefore have access to higher paying jobs. Sure, SEA’s live on the low end, but the legal low end is higher than the illegal low end.

True, but you also said their culture/family values are also holding them back. In that sense, they are similar to SEAs/Hispanics.

Similar to Hispanic, but not Asian. Asian family values/culture are largely the same except that EA has middle-class values. All you’d have to do is install those values onto SEA parents and make it a smoother ride which will catapult SEA to the same levels as EA. Black/Hispanic culture/family values do not have middle-class values and black families tend to be more broken than Hispanic ones. Hispanic families are intact but tend to be poorer than whites/Asians. Both Black/Hispanic have a similar academic achievement levels.

I see. So is this the main trait that would differentiate SEAs from blacks/hispanics (and hence, enabling you to believe that they have more hope with governmental assistance programs than blacks/hispanics)?

Governmental assistance is not the end all be all. All races have access to governmental assistance already. It’s difficult to talk about Blacks and Hispanics b/c each race does not have the same problems and yes, we are different. To lump us all into the same category and dole out assistance across the board will not work.

then why should they worry about whether or not affirmative action will affect them?

They’re looking at the long term potential implications which means that it’s calculated and not an overreaction. An overreaction means that the bill has zero impact and affirmative action coming back has zero chance. The chance for affirmative action coming back is still there.

@asianmovement The timing couldn’t be worse.

China has unofficially suffered its first failure of the year during the attempt to launch the Gaofen-10 remote sensing satellite from the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center on Wednesday. Launching from the LC9 Launch Complex at around 18:53 UTC, the Long March-4C (Chang Zheng-4C) failied for reasons not yet known.

Long March 4C apparently fails during Gaofen-10 launch | NASASpaceFlight.com:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2016/09/long-march-4c-apparently-fails-during-gaofen-10-launch/

@suiko_no_shin

Let’s stop talking about what we should or should not do and just do it. I have my path, and you have yours.

Agreed.

@Danger said in #HyperMasculAZNs:

@suiko_no_shin hey suiko just saw your post, where was this screenshot taken? Would be interested in reading the thread

keep in mind the original comments are not there
https://www.reddit.com/r/asianfeminism/comments/4wp7gm/discussing_toxic_masculinity_misogyny_and/?sort=new

@Danger That’s great to hear! They should definitely try to be more vocal if that’s the case and counterargue all of these Asian “e-feminists” online, on interviews, videos and everywhere else since they’re academic and having degrees will probably give them more credibility. If they’re not already doing so, maybe we can contact them and get them to do so.

I don’t know how you guys cope with this; maybe it isn’t nearly as bad for most of you as it is for me.

My family used to say that whites are like small pieces of dirt. Separately and as individuals, they’re not much but combined together, they can make the whole ground. They say Asians, on the other hand, are like diamonds. Each one very bright and/or talented but each one also try too hard to out shine the other.

What were they trying to get at? I believe pan-Asianism. You feel your confidence being destroyed because you see so many superpower countries being white, so many innovations that are (or you thought) from whites, white people being the epitome of beauty and all things good, etc…but I still feel confident because I know for a fact that I’m not, or rather, we’re not, inferior. I know for a fact that there was once a time when Asia was thousands of years well ahead of Europe (i.e. Tang dynasty while Europe was stuck in dark ages) in terms of being a superpower, innovation, art, and literature. The only reason why we got behind while Europe raced up was because of what my family said, whites work together as a community while we did not. Whites passed ideas to each other with each one adding something new to the original idea. On the flip side, historically, we had a culture in which whenever one of us came up with a great idea or innovation, we rather keep it to ourselves (either because we were too afraid that others will “steal” our idea or we wouldn’t be able to profit if others are doing it too, etc…) so we never passed it down to others.

So intellectually, we are far from being inferior. Our problem is that we don’t come together and work together. Another evidence being that Western Europe has the EU and the U.S., Canada and Australia has its allies. Whereas we have very few allies that are the same race as us. Even whites of different ethnicities don’t hesitate to embrace one another. Case in point being that you meet so many whites who are mixed with several ethnicities. They often say they’re “Dutch, Italian, Irish, Spanish, Welsh, Croatian”, etc…whereas Asians typically alienate each other and sometimes would rather marry whites than marry Asians of other ethnicities (which is something I never quite understand). Sure, once in a while you meet a girl who’s dad is Chinese and mom is Vietnamese or guy who’s dad is Korean and mom is Japanese but rarely do you meet an Asian (even in America) who is mixed with more than 2 Asian ethnicities (that being said, I did run into a girl from Singapore who was Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, Filipino and Malaysian and an Asian-American guy who was Chinese, Mongolian, Thai and Viet before so they do exist but they’re still VERY RARE).

Anyways, my point is we need to come together if we hope to dominate or become a superpower (and stop seeing each other as foreign aliens but rather brethren of the same race). Economically, Asians are doing great–they’re amazing in fact, if South Korea, Japan, China, Taiwan and Singapore are any sort of proof. They have far surpassed Europe, Canada and Australia in that sense. Even militarily, Asians are pretty damn strong (at least 4 out of the top 11 countries on this list are Asian http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp). I’m Viet but I don’t think my ancestral country’s military power is inferior at all since they were able to kick a supposedly “superior” country’s ass. If Asian countries, just as INDIVIDUALS, were able to achieve that much economic/military might, imagine what a formidable force to be reckoned with they would be if they banded together and became allies like Europe with its EU or America and it’s western allies.

You asked how I’m able to cope with white supremacy being shoved down everyone’s throats. The answer is I just know for a fact that their supremacy is a lie and I don’t see them as superior to me at all, no matter how much they try to rub it in everyone’s faces. Their attempts to ridicule Asian men is from jealousy and spite. We already beat them at their own game in their OWN country (becoming well educated, financially well off and living the American Dream) despite all odds stacked against us.

As for us not being able to do much about white supremacy right now, I still have hope and I’m pretty optimistic. The fact that places like this and AznIdentity exist at all help people to start talking, which is a step in the right direction. Now we just need to get Asians in Asia to see the white fuckery that is going on and hopefully, they will recognize one another as friends and allies rather than look up to whites all the time. To overthrow white supremacy, I can’t stress this enough–we really need to unite and work together. We can’t be diamonds trying to outshine each other, rather, we need to be shining together.

@Danger said in Their accusations of Sun Yang reminds me of what they will always think of us:

It’s funny because Australia created the Australian Institute of Sport after they failed to win a single gold medal during the Montreal Olympics.

Interesting. I was reading a comment the other day about how China created a similar organization and yes they were demonized for it and that comment came from a Brit. I was scrolling down BBC’s Facebook page and down the timeline, there were so many Asian focused or Anti-Asian news it was ridiculous. The comments might even be worse.

What. The. Fuck.

This shit makes my blood boil. It’s so often a WM that do completely fucked up shit like this, why aren’t they stereotyped to be like that? Oh right, cause that was just a bad apple, nothing to do with the years of sexual imperialism and their history of conquering and dominating…

I think because the number of Asian women who specifically chase and marry white men are so high, the rest of society notices this and looks down on them for it because it indicates lack of self-esteem. Tbh, most people can sense low self-esteem from a mile away and when they think you have no respect for yourself, why should they respect you? Even if there are a VERY small number of wmaf couples out there who married not because of fetishization or white worshipping, no one cares because the vast majority has to do with fetishization/white worshipping (otherwise wmaf wouldn’t be the most common interracial coupling ever nor would the ratio between wmaf and amwf be so skewed).

I’m gonna copy and paste what I wrote from the hapas sub a while ago to here but I think it’s relevant to the point I’m trying to make:

What pisses me off the most are the actions of the Asian women that caused such disrespect towards them in the first place (whoring themselves out to any white guy they see, no matter how hideous said white guy is). They’re a fucking embarrassment to me because look at how everyone sees all Asian women as now…less than whores because at least whores charge for money. These women’s only accepted currency is whiteness. If you’re white–free of charge.
Controversial opinion but most of the time, I confess that I do wish Asian women would stay exclusive to only Asian men. I will probably get accused of being “backwards” and “close-minded” by yellow fever white trolls and their Af lapdogs but imo, the women would’ve at least earned hell of a lot more respect from society as a whole if they did that.

From here https://www.reddit.com/r/hapas/comments/4wvd0m/from_2011_why_eastasian_women_are_repulsive/d6bvwvx

From the way I see things, the lack of respect towards Asian women isn’t going to change unless a. we somehow manage to raise the number of amwf to match the number of wmaf so that at the very least, it will look like that Asians, as a whole, are simply a very desired race because not only are the women considered attractive, but so are the men or b. we stay exclusive–in which case, we will also earn respect by not caring to mix our bloodline with those we deem less than ourselves.

@siberiandragon LMAO! Well to be fair, Will Ferrell was always ugly, even in his younger years

I’ll just use one of my crushes, Donnie Yen and compare him to a guy who at least looked better than Ferrell when he was younger, Johnny Depp. Both Yen and Depp are the same exact age (53). The photos I took of both of them are their most recent photos taken in 2016 and neither photo was photoshopped.

Mind you, Johnny Depp was once a hearthrob among white teenage girls but now look at how hard he hit the wall. Fat is accumulating around his jaws, his cheeks, under his chin, and on his neck. His jawline has completely disappeared as a result. There are visible wrinkles on the sides of his face and a little bit between his eyebrows. If you look even more closely, you can see some liver spots already starting to appear on his forehead (signs of aging).

On the other hand, Donnie Yen is still in really good shape. His jawline is extremely apparent, his chin is nice and tight, no sagging to be seen. His neck has no signs of sagging either–his adam’s apple can still be seen very clearly. There are almost no wrinkles (i can’t see any at all even) and his skin appears flawless. No blemishes, no liver spots. His skin tone also looks very nice and healthy but not sure if he tanned or it’s due to his genetic make up. Either way, the guy looks almost exactly like he did back when he was in his thirties.

@secondstrike Damn. Confident. I like that.

@natalie_ng said in Daughters of Megalia have now started a terrorism campaign:

Yikes! So they’re technically a terrorist group then? I think the word “cult” is a little too soft to describe a group of extremist feminists who go around and murder men.

Not officially but that’s what I’m calling them since they’re now teaching women to kill and they’ve already taught women to rape boys.

@natalie_ng I don’t have sexpats in my town, at least not in the conventional sense, but knowing they exist pisses me off.

Wait–the guy was on his bike and the girl had to walk? Wow, how chivalrous…NOT.

Most normal couples either are both on a bike or if one of them doesn’t know how to bike (I doubt it though, everyone knows how to use a bike at this age) then both of them will be walking together. That’s how my husband and I do it. Either we’re both on our own bikes, both jogging together, both walking together or both in the car together. Well, there goes that theory of “white male gentlemanness” out the door (not that it hasn’t been out the door for a while now).

AI is full of dude-bros, do-nothings and cleanslate

LMFAO!!! You just HAD to throw his name in there.

@tour_operator I don’t think anyone here was saying that Christianity or any type of religion/fanaticism is the only contributing factor to white imperialism or the upholding of white supremacy but that it’s one of the many aspects of it that shouldn’t be ignored.

That is awesome. Must be crazy expensive tho