Jewish Masculinity
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@secondstrike said in Jewish Masculinity:
Daigo is a really bad example. He is mentally strong and has the spirit of a winner, but look at him.
You’re still missing the point. It’s not about the looks. It’s about the fact that he is the best at what he does, and what he does has visibility. Therefore he is well respected and celebrated. That is an example to follow. Yes, lift weights, look like Ning Zetao (or rather, Wang Kai is the look I aspire to in my case) but if you do not adopt the winning attitude and get into a position of visibility then it means nothing. Yes. Look at Daigo Umehara. He is successful and he looks like that. Just imagine if he put more effort into looking masculine and throw the fashion into it as well (he has no problem on that end, I’ve seen him wear Versace).
In addition, Daigo Umehara does not have to look any different. He is Japanese. They do not favor heavily masculine looks over there. Women like style. It could be that he does well with Japanese fashion and slays it with the ladies. Who cares? If Daigo succeeds where he’s at with what he’s got, that’s A-OK to me. Daigo inspired me and I can take that knowledge to the next level. Not discard it.
edit: this is one of Daigo’s fans and he has female fans that follow him to Evo (as seen earlier this year). He also has a girlfriend, so his masculinity shouldn’t be questioned. You might not like how he looks but he got it.
I disagree. Our situation may be even better. If the Asian Asians can be more self confident and stop white worship, we’d have lots to work off of.
I disagree with that. Asia is fine by itself and would be even better w/o white worship but the problem that plagues us (and Japanese does a great job of hammering this point) is that our culture is totally fucked. You can’t rely on Asians in Asia because they are living in their own world. When the Ghost in the Shell debacle happened, Japanese didn’t give a crap b/c they weren’t actually affected by it. They recognized that Asians in America could be affected and they see how that might be a problem but they were still indifferent at the end of the day. We can’t rely on them. If you’re not willing to build a new future of Asians in America and would instead relegate that task to Asians in Asia then we won’t get anywhere.
This is insufficient. Lots of Asian women were pro before they come to the West and turn on us. The key problem to address is the brainwashing. Do not let them get brainwashed by whites and ensure they are “brainwashed” by pro-Asian perspectives from day one. The Asian governments and parents are failing at this.
This is false. My cousins wives, 5 of them have 2-3 kids on average and despite having a home, cars and all the modern luxuries of America, they haven’t once dreamed of turning on my cousins and going with a white guy. One of the wives had a cousin, who came over to the US and she had a white boyfriend (she was Chinese). Go figure! Maybe it’s something you want to take up with Chinese people? Cause it sure as hell ain’t Cambodians from Cambodia. Cambodian women here OTOH are a different story, but again, it’s going to be up to you as a parent to teach your children. If they end up going with whites, you failed.
Anyways, what you’re implying is that your own wife would turn on you and backstab you for white. You can’t be insecure like that towards your wife. Just saying. A pro-Asian married to a Asian from Asia should be a good prospect so long as you do your job and show her what these white people are really like. If she leaves you for white, you failed.
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- list item Oppressing people who did nothing to us [I’m quite blurry on their Israel Palestine history though so this may be wrong] is unacceptable morally speaking. I wouldn’t do this unless there are extreme reasons like survival. Using the same tricks on our oppressors is superior to our current situation. In the long run, I really dislike it. I think Western culture [combative, imperialistic, hypocritical, savage, racist, hateful] is extremely inhumane. I don’t want to drag Asians to that level for any extended period of time. I think it’s regressive."
If we talk in terms of moral code, that is something that is more or less a subjective to the individual. What we should be more concerned is the price and consequences of our actions. If we do oppress the whites, it could have negative consequences. With that said, not taking an action based off of moral code is more of a subjective issue which does not apply to us as a community. What you think is moral may not apply to other individuals and even the community at hand. I for one am an advocate for imperialism though not in the same context that white supremacy uses. We need strengthin all factors including military. I don’t want us to be as destructive as the whites are, but I do want us to push our agenda as we should .
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participate in that to shatter stereotypes. On a bigger scale, we can use socialism to advance our interests. Examples; Asian owned businesses that hire other Asians, Asian productions that use Asian talent, and so on so forth.
Yes, be more manly looking. This is something that too many clowns keep arguing over. Looking masculine isn’t Western. The problem is that, aside from emasculation from racist whites, Asian men don’t pursue higher levels of masculinity enough.
The second is just putting Asians first. It’s a core rule and I agree with it, but I wouldn’t call it socialism.
Tactics used on them used on natives (in this case Palestinians) in order to establish their own nation. We’re already using similar strategies (white behavior against Asians and the stereotypes assigned with it). If you go on r/hapas they even stereotype them as small-dicked.
Sports, exercise and hygiene alleviated nervousness. In part an attempt to mitigate alleged characteristics.
Gymnastics was thought to foster courage and willpower. These characteristics are in opposition to alleged Jewish characteristics (weak and womanly).
Agriculture fostered hard working men and women, promoting socialism, linked nationalism to masculinity.They actively disproved stereotypes by things that can be SEEN. This is something that Asians are not doing on a big scale. If they are, they are doing a terrible job at promoting it. Choreographed dancing is the only thing I can think of but they wear masks?
Daigo is a really bad example. He is mentally strong and has the spirit of a winner, but look at him.
There’s no sex appeal at all.
This is what we need more of. The Western and Eastern media went crazy over him. Masculine sex appeal is universal within a wide range [slim-athletic to built-fat]. Crazily enough, many Asian are out of that range and in scrawny/nerdy land.
They allowed their nationalism and built in honor win them over instead. We don’t have a country to build so we can’t necessarily emulate that.
I disagree. Our situation may be even better. If the Asian Asians can be more self confident and stop white worship, we’d have lots to work off of.
But we can bring over Asian women from Asia who are true Asian women and pro-Asian by default.
This is insufficient. Lots of Asian women were pro before they come to the West and turn on us. The key problem to address is the brainwashing. Do not let them get brainwashed by whites and ensure they are “brainwashed” by pro-Asian perspectives from day one. The Asian governments and parents are failing at this.
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My understanding is that Jews were oppressed. They adapted by emulating their oppressors [white hegemonic masculinity] and oppressing Palestinians instead and smearing their former oppressors with enemy imaging.
#hypermasculinjews
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@secondstrike said in Jewish Masculinity:
@suiko_no_shin I only skimmed through it because it was so long so I may have misinterpreted / missed things.
My understanding is that Jews were oppressed. They adapted by emulating their oppressors [white hegemonic masculinity] and oppressing Palestinians instead and smearing their former oppressors with enemy imaging. I see good and bad with this approach.
Oppressing people who did nothing to us [I’m quite blurry on their Israel Palestine history though so this may be wrong] is unacceptable morally speaking. I wouldn’t do this unless there are extreme reasons like survival. Using the same tricks on our oppressors is superior to our current situation. In the long run, I really dislike it. I think Western culture [combative, imperialistic, hypocritical, savage, racist, hateful] is extremely inhumane. I don’t want to drag Asians to that level for any extended period of time. I think it’s regressive.
Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own.
I’ll write the TL;DR tomorrow morning, add my thoughts bump the thread.
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@suiko_no_shin I only skimmed through it because it was so long so I may have misinterpreted / missed things.
My understanding is that Jews were oppressed. They adapted by emulating their oppressors [white hegemonic masculinity] and oppressing Palestinians instead and smearing their former oppressors with enemy imaging. I see good and bad with this approach.
Oppressing people who did nothing to us [I’m quite blurry on their Israel Palestine history though so this may be wrong] is unacceptable morally speaking. I wouldn’t do this unless there are extreme reasons like survival. Using the same tricks on our oppressors is superior to our current situation. In the long run, I really dislike it. I think Western culture [combative, imperialistic, hypocritical, savage, racist, hateful] is extremely inhumane. I don’t want to drag Asians to that level for any extended period of time. I think it’s regressive.
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@secondstrike said in Jewish Masculinity:
@suiko_no_shin Would you like to put the highlights into the OP? It would really save others a lot of time reading.
I figured that was going to happen. I wanted people’s opinions first to see if people drew from it the same things that I did. I didn’t want to immediately provide the answer. Originally I didn’t even want to share it (I wasn’t banned from AI at the time). But yeah, I was going to do a TL;DR since nobody else is replying.
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Bit of a long read, but I did enjoy the concept of how the Jewish developed their own form of masculinity. I really like the idea of how the Jewish established their own masculinity and identity in lieu of fighting against weakness and fragility. Unfortunately it seems that most of us aren’t fighters and are somewhat meek when it comes to war. I myself welcome suffering and do find joy in fighting for a greater cause. We already do well when it comes to skill and intelligence, but we seriously need to work on learning how to fight and take what is ours. I do see that we have more of a natural tendency to stay more relaxed and calm in most scenarios. HOWEVER, we need to be able to cultivate a vigorous fighting spirit and learn how to channel that energy into creation. Though we definitely are best at learning new skills and being efficient, the desire just isn’t there! We need to influence our own into generating a new mentality that is sure yield incredible results. With that said, redefining and establishing our masculinity is a huge step in the right direction. Men like us NEED to be masculine leaders. We need to guide our kind into greater paradise.
