Jewish Masculinity


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    http://www.gnovisjournal.org/2011/04/04/re-masculinizing-the-jew-gender-and-zionism-until-the-first-world-war/

    Read it and let me know what you think.

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    Abstract:

    • socialism
    • gymnastics/dueling/militarism

    This section talks about co-opting European masculinity (as defined by Europeans) while retaining their culture and religion. It alludes to socialism but doesn’t expand on it. How it can relate to us in today’s age is that we must look at what western society sees as masculine and we must participate in that to shatter stereotypes. On a bigger scale, we can use socialism to advance our interests. Examples; Asian owned businesses that hire other Asians, Asian productions that use Asian talent, and so on so forth.

    Introduction:

    • Rise of homosexuality and women’s liberation movements posed a threat to European masculinity, and Europeans blamed it on women and minorities.
    • Europeans (said to be Right-wing) categorized people, rolled them up into one group in order to distance from them.
    • Jewish stereotypes likened men as women, homosexuals, and people without a nation.

    Jews were credited as the creator of homosexuality and women’s liberation, therefore were attributed with stereotypes. They are crippling stereotypes to be sure, however we share similarities in that Asian men are seen as effeminate and the qualities associated with that. We don’t have the crippling stereotypes of being the creators of homosexuality and feminism but I suspect that Hollywood is trying to push homosexuality onto Asians. Hollywood as you know, is Jew owned/operated so it seems odd that they push it on Asians (but not out of character as they did it to the Palestinians and now remaking America with Jewish ideology). We as Asians will also have to deal with the homosexual stereotypes. Personally I had to deal with this in the workplace and once you have the stereotypes, it’s difficult to come out from under it. The messed up part is that I talked to lots of women and many were hot. I was still hit w/ it anyways.

    • Regain masculinity by assimilating into white society, being men like other men.

    Jews had the advantage of white skin. It was easier for them to change in their society by learning from their oppression and then adapt to it by mimicking it. As Asians we can only do a part of this. We can never look like them but we can do the same things that white people do. In my opinion, we can do it better with Asian characteristics lol!

    • Projecting their stereotypes onto traditional men and labeling them as effeminate.

    Tactics used on them used on natives (in this case Palestinians) in order to establish their own nation. We’re already using similar strategies (white behavior against Asians and the stereotypes assigned with it). If you go on r/hapas they even stereotype them as small-dicked. The difference is that we’re not taking over or building a country on top of another. Truthfully I don’t mind the use of stereotypes as long as there’s some truth to it (like white guys are losers in their own countries, typically ugly representations of western white guys, etc) and as long as it’s not used unethically like how the Jews hypocritically did it to other races.

    Gymnastics, Agriculture, and Zionism:

    • Jews were characterized as weak, both physically and mentally
    • Described as “nervousness” it served to emasculate Judaism altogether
    • Sports, exercise and hygiene alleviated nervousness. In part an attempt to mitigate alleged characteristics.
    • Gymnastics was thought to foster courage and willpower. These characteristics are in opposition to alleged Jewish characteristics (weak and womanly).
    • Agriculture fostered hard working men and women, promoting socialism, linked nationalism to masculinity.

    There’s not much that needs to be said on those points as they are self-explanatory. I once shared an article on Daigo Umehara (which was blasted by some azn users). People didn’t get the importance of the article. Pick something to compete in, be the best at it and look good doing it. In the FGC, Daigo is loved by many, including non-whites, and they give much respect to him. Are fighting games masculine? Yes and no. But it’s not seen as masculine despite the fact that in order to succeed at it, you need the mentality of a fighter and a winner. It has masculine qualities hidden underneath an un-masculine pastime.

    It’s not really about video games and whether they are or aren’t masculine. It’s about taking this mentality and applying it to any of your disciplines. If you happen to be in a masculine hobby or job, then use that winning attitude and become the best at it. Whether that’s basketball, baseball, or whatever. Asian culture is merit-based and values hard work to reach the top. Western culture doesn’t value that. They say “aww, you didn’t get 1st but you tried! That’s all that matters.” Asian culture does not subscribe to that. For us, it’s “if you’re not 1st you’re last”. It inspires people to reach the highest hierarchies even if they might not actually reach it. You will still accomplish something you never thought possible.

    That said, do we need more Asian people in sports and other well-known ‘popular’ activities? Yes. But for those that don’t, be the best in what you do, lift some weights, get into fashion, and participate in something that mentally invigorates you, giving you more confidence and assertiveness. It’ll allow you to succeed in your own life but in the grand scope of things, it doesn’t do enough. What helped the Jews at the time was that they got into gymnastics and militarism right before the WW. So the things they did was linked to masculinity and it was more visible. In the scope of today’s Asian men, what we do isn’t visible at all. We need Asian people who are willing to go out and be visible but not only that, be the best in what they do.

    • Western European Jews threw shade at Eastern European Jews and even called them goys (equivalent to laowai, gweilo, gaijin)
    • Found prevalence of Eastern European Jewish prostitutes (called Jewesses)
    • Cultivated nationalism by being empathetic with what they saw as degenerate

    This runs counter to what I said about Asian women. Do we hate Lu’s? Sure. Are we suspicious of Asian women in general? Sure. Should we take action against their degenerate behavior? It implies here that Jews did not. They allowed their nationalism and built in honor win them over instead. We don’t have a country to build so we can’t necessarily emulate that. Adopting our parents/ancestor’s nationalities may not work either. While it may not work, we still have to retain our ancestors values (apply Bruce Lee adaptability concept to it).

    I think that it is valid to bring over wives from Asia as a way to build a new pro-Asian future. Lu’s are lost to us and there’s nothing we can do about it. But we can bring over Asian women from Asia who are true Asian women and pro-Asian by default. They will be the opposition to Lu’s who run contradictory to Asian woman’s life in Asia.


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    @tour_operator I’d like to learn about everything too, but how long would your approach take? From what I could tell, China was subverted easily due to circumstance. Han majority hated Manchu rule and they were already weak from losing multiple wars.

    The context seems quite different.


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    @tour_operator

    they were for centuries slowly implemented in decision and perception nodes in the area they lived, while asian dont (only financiary). Then they were able to activate these leverage as mentioned in the article (which “failed” to mention). That is why trying to copy or adapt their lesson is not the most adequate solution for Asians.

    We must slowly inject our own system of value in the key nodes thought the future elites.

    What is the difference? Sounds like we need to infiltrate just like Jews did.

    BTW, the reason Jews are studied is because they succeeded with far less numbers. Why would I study a yellow belt when I can study a black belt.


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    @tour_operator said in Jewish Masculinity:

    However, that’s the umpteenth time i read in a supposedly pro-asian forum some pro-jewish long speech.

    It’s not pro-Jewish lol! What I’m showing here is how Jews took over white-supremacy (which ironically reinforced their own white supremacy). There are lessons to be learned here and if you still don’t see how some of that relates to even modern accepted views on masculinity then I don’t know what else to say.

    This to say: the difference between Asian and the Jews is : they were for centuries slowly implemented in decision and perception nodes in the area they lived, while asian dont (only financiary).

    That’s because they appear to be white.

    Then they were able to activate these leverage as mentioned in the article (which “failed” to mention).

    The article didn’t cover modern times.

    That is why trying to copy or adapt their lesson is not the most adequate solution for Asians. We must slowly inject our own system of value in the key nodes thought the future elites.

    Wrong. Jewish were able to subvert the United States government, United States media and entertainment. They are effectively running the USA b/c USA is a capitalistic society and the government is beholden to corporations (why do you think the candidates promise to tackle Wall Street?). The Jewish went through worse than we did and they came out of it much stronger. But what also happened is that they are abusing other races (especially Asian) and that is why they will experience another downfall. The white people won’t stand for it and are starting to wake up.

    I don’t deny that we’ll have to come up with our own “flavor” of masculinity but if you don’t learn from the past then you are doomed.


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    @natalie_ng said in Jewish Masculinity:

    @secondstrike & @suiko_no_shin I’d say the looks of Ning Zetao plus the spirit of Sun Yang is probably the best combo, in terms of flirting with women and getting to know women. Good looks are very important but so is confidence.

    A lot of guys don’t understand that confidence comes from feeling secure. If a person is secure about their looks, they feel confident in approaching women. If a person is secure about their abilities, they are secure in succeeding when that ability is put to use.

    People rag on video games but fighting games in my early teen years helped build mental confidence b/c I felt secure in my abilities and secure in that I could beat other people. This can apply for any discipline, which includes sports. Back then, fashion wasn’t really a huge thing for guys. So hygiene was the thing, and sports offered the discipline to build confidence and willpower. As the article said “overcome the sissy from within”.



  • @secondstrike & @suiko_no_shin I’d say the looks of Ning Zetao plus the spirit of Sun Yang is probably the best combo, in terms of flirting with women and getting to know women. Good looks are very important but so is confidence.

    But if you’re looking at purely global soft power, then probably the more Ning Zetaos, the better. These guys will be the ones on TV, pictured in ads everywhere, and all over the internet. Women will see images of Ning Zetao-looking guys and start to assume that that is the standard look of Asian men. That’s what white people pretty much did for centuries–using decent-looking whites (heavily photoshopped with tons of make-up) to feature everywhere and fool everyone into thinking that all whites look like that :laughing:


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    @secondstrike said in Jewish Masculinity:

    @suiko_no_shin lol

    I’m not even going to bother but I do want to briefly show you why.

    There’s not much that needs to be said on those points as they are self-explanatory. I once shared an article on Daigo Umehara (which was blasted by some azn users). People didn’t get the importance of the article. Pick something to compete in, be the best at it and look good doing it.

    I remember exactly what I wrote. When Daigo beats people, he does it looking good. Not physical good, but WHAT HE DOES good. If you are a swimmer, look good doing that. If you are a programmer, then write the most functional and efficient code you can. If you’re a basketball player, outplay the team and put some style into it. You are so far behind the concept that you can’t even understand these basic things. I also clearly said this:

    That said, do we need more Asian people in sports and other well-known ‘popular’ activities? Yes. But for those that don’t, be the best in what you do, lift some weights, get into fashion, and participate in something that mentally invigorates you, giving you more confidence and assertiveness.

    I already explained that I’m not implying anything about a ‘wife’ but you still try to shoe horn it in. lmfaoo

    Because the original context was about bringing wives from Asia. Then you said women get brainwashed. In the scope of the conversation, you’re implying that wives being brought over would get brainwashed. That is absolutely hogwash and anybody reading this should not take what you said to heart.


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    @suiko_no_shin lol

    I’m not even going to bother but I do want to briefly show you why.

    There’s not much that needs to be said on those points as they are self-explanatory. I once shared an article on Daigo Umehara (which was blasted by some azn users). People didn’t get the importance of the article. Pick something to compete in, be the best at it and look good doing it.

    You can’t remember what you wrote and you’re arguing over straw men that you make up. I already explained that I’m not implying anything about a ‘wife’ but you still try to shoe horn it in. lmfaoo


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    @secondstrike said in Jewish Masculinity:

    @suiko_no_shin

    You’re still missing the point. It’s not about the looks.

    There are thugs who have decent looks and can get girls easily.

    Of course but that’s not the point. You’re bringing something about looks into something that’s not about looks. This is about taking some valuable knowledge and integrating it into your own life. Looks have nothing to do with that.

    ADAPT WHAT IS USEFUL AND REJECT WHAT IS NOT! How difficult is it to understand Bruce’s concept? Take Daigo’s winning attitude and work ethic, combine it with the pursuit of physical exercise and fashion. That’s the perfect combo right there. It’s also a perfect execution of Bruce’s concept but it’s not surprising that I understand it since I’m a Wing Chun practitioner and JKD follower.

    The two are completely related.

    No they’re actually not. Japanese do not give a shit one way or another what Americans do with Ghost in the Shell. The original will always be the anime and the anime will always have been voiced by Japanese. The creators will always be Japanese. It’s in Japanese culture to not give a fuck so long as it doesn’t hurt them or other people. Outside Japan they couldn’t care less.

    You’re only saying they’re completely related but you’re looking at from the lens of an Asian American. You’re not looking at it from the lens of Japanese (which I am). You have to understand both sides. Only Asian Americans are hurt from not seeing an Asian cast. Therefore it’s in Asian American interests to raise up the issue.

    I didn’t say that. I’m just saying if the Asians in Asia can be unbrainwashed, and learn to recognize disrespect and how they’re getting shafted hard in the soft power game, we’d make much faster progress. Case in point. Korean soft power made massive strides because they assert their own culture instead of kissing [as much] white ass. Now, women ask if some Asian dude is Korean. Yes? Ohhh my gawd, you’re so hot. Not Korean? leaves…

    That only benefits Koreans, not to mention you have to find those fans and if you don’t, you’re just another Asian to them. How many countries do you need to reach and bring up before the west realizes all of Asia is positive? That’s too much work and it’s not possible at the current moment. What we can focus on are Asians in America.

    Do not let them get brainwashed by whites and ensure they are “brainwashed” by pro-Asian perspectives from day one. The Asian governments and parents are failing at this.

    Where are you going to find your wife so that you can instill these values? Lu’s?

    Please re-read. I didn’t imply that. I said, pro-Asian women from Asia turn when they get brainwashed and socially pressured into turning on Asian men.

    My comment stands. You’re saying your wife would turn on you after being pressured and brainwashed. My family disproves your entire idea. Your idea also implies that your wife doesn’t actually love you and you don’t trust your wife to not give in to the brainwashing and peer pressure. If I get married, that’s not going to happen with my wife b/c I’d be a husband worth keeping that not even white men can compare. Whether she turns or not is all on you. It’s not the media or peers.

    Remember that while Asians watch western movies and TV shows, they still think the culture and values are backwards. When my mom watches Young and the Restless, there was a recent arc where Phyllis cheats on her husband and sleeps with her husbands brother, Billy. I’ve heard similar sentiments from younger Chinese women when they watch shows like Big Bang Theory. There’s lots of women out there in Asia that has her values straight and would not give in to white supremacy but you have to give them a chance. They didn’t grow up around it and some group of people or TV show won’t change their mind. They’ll only change their mind if YOU prove them correct.


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    @suiko_no_shin

    You’re still missing the point. It’s not about the looks.

    There are thugs who have decent looks and can get girls easily.

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    High level Asian scientists have the mentality of warriors yet how are they celebrated?

    Asia is fine by itself and would be even better w/o white worship…When the Ghost in the Shell debacle happened, Japanese didn’t give a crap b/c they weren’t actually affected by it.

    The two are completely related.

    We can’t rely on them. If you’re not willing to build a new future of Asians in America

    I didn’t say that. I’m just saying if the Asians in Asia can be unbrainwashed, and learn to recognize disrespect and how they’re getting shafted hard in the soft power game, we’d make much faster progress. Case in point. Korean soft power made massive strides because they assert their own culture instead of kissing [as much] white ass. Now, women ask if some Asian dude is Korean. Yes? Ohhh my gawd, you’re so hot. Not Korean? leaves…

    it’s going to be up to you as a parent to teach your children. If they end up going with whites, you failed.

    How is this any different from what I wrote, which was

    Do not let them get brainwashed by whites and ensure they are “brainwashed” by pro-Asian perspectives from day one. The Asian governments and parents are failing at this.

    what you’re implying is that your own wife would turn on you and backstab you for white.

    Please re-read. I didn’t imply that. I said, pro-Asian women from Asia turn when they get brainwashed and socially pressured into turning on Asian men.

    The rest of your response is a rehash of my earlier reply.


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