Black guys play by the same rules as whites
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@secondstrike said in Black guys play by the same rules as whites:
@suiko_no_shin Hmm. YT comments is a cesspool though. I honestly think the comments are mostly from kids. Have you tried arguing elsewhere? Have the results been different? I find a lot of trolls everywhere.
It’s a cesspool everywhere. I don’t go there with the intent of arguing but it just happens when some jackass makes a remark. The results are not different at all actually. YT, Twitter, FB, Reddit, Disqus, doesn’t matter. Races have the same ‘quirks’.
I’m not suggesting your experiences aren’t real, but I sometimes argue on disqus and I find the same people make over-the-top claims constantly. I strongly suspect they are paid propagandists. Have you seen this?
I haven’t seen it but I know what you’re talking about. It seems like on Disqus there does appear to be more shills than any other comments section I’ve seen. If I hadn’t have participated in the old WCCF disqus comments, I would never have known how pervasive and insidious it was.
On that topic, I remember this interview with a former KGB agent and he said that the vast majority of funds were not used for physical force against people but rather subversion. Subversion is a tactic that I’ve mastered and have used to some effect. It is the best and for obvious reasons.
Oh yeah, since the past few replies, I picked up this black sexpat:
This guy targeted all of EA especially Japan and China. Very sour feeling after reading his opinions on Quora. I’m really disgusted by all these non-Asians going to Asia when either A) their own countries couldn’t cut it (Central/South Americans, Africans/AA’s, etc) B] refuse to date their own race where they have privilege. Black and White men both have their own women and I’ve seen beautiful average girls from both races but they’d rather forsake all of it for Asian women, even going as far as Asia itself. Asian men go to Asia because we have to. They do it for fun, as an alternative option.
I saw one of his replies where he said white nationalists got angry at him for dating Asian women. But get this, they were defending us while the black guy himself said he didn’t like the promotion of interracial (ironically his views are mostly in line w/ white nationalists) but his own self-interest takes over and obviously that didn’t stop him from sexpatting in Asia.
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@suiko_no_shin Hmm. YT comments is a cesspool though. I honestly think the comments are mostly from kids. Have you tried arguing elsewhere? Have the results been different? I find a lot of trolls everywhere.
I’m not suggesting your experiences aren’t real, but I sometimes argue on disqus and I find the same people make over-the-top claims constantly. I strongly suspect they are paid propagandists. Have you seen this?
It’s kinda long, but here are my notes
the modern American surveillance state is not really the stuff of paranoid fantasies; it has arrived.
The revelations about the National Security Agency’s PRISM data collection program have raised awareness — and understandably, concern and fears — among American and those abroad, about the reach and power of secret intelligence gatherers operating behind the facades of government and business.
What has received less attention is the fact that most intelligence work today is not carried out by government agencies but by private intelligence firms and that much of that work involves another common aspect of intelligence work - deception. That is, it is involved not just with the concealment of reality, but with the manufacture of it.
Team Themis (a group that included HBGary and the private intelligence and security firms Palantir Technologies, Berico Technologies and Endgame Systems) was effectively brought in to find a way to undermine the credibility of WikiLeaks and the journalist Glenn Greenwald (who recently broke the story of Edward Snowden’s leak of the N.S.A.’s Prism program), because of Greenwald’s support for WikiLeaks. Specifically, the plan called for actions to “sabotage or discredit the opposing organization” including a plan to submit fake documents and then call out the error. As for Greenwald, it was argued that he would cave “if pushed” because he would “choose professional preservation over cause.” That evidently wasn’t the case.
Team Themis was developing a “persona management” system — a program, developed at the specific request of the United States Air Force, that allowed one user to control multiple online identities (“sock puppets”) for commenting in social media spaces, thus giving the appearance of grass roots support.
This may sound like nothing so much as a “Matrix” like fantasy, but it is distinctly real, and resembles in some ways the employment of “Psyops” (psychological operations), which as most students of recent American history know, have been part of the nation’s military strategy for decades. The military’s “Unconventional
Warfare Training Manual” defines Psyops as “planned operations to convey selected information and indicators to foreign audiences to influence their emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of foreign governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.” In other words, it is sometimes more
effective to deceive a population into a false reality than it is to impose its will with force or conventional weapons.the private intelligence industry is effectively engaged in Psyops against American public., engaging in “planned operations to convey selected information to [us] to influence [our] emotions, motives, objective reasoning and, ultimately, [our] behavior” - Or as the philosopher might put it, they are engaged in epistemic warfare.
The Real War on Reality - The New York Times:
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/14/the-real-war-on-reality/?_r=1In terms of comment quality, I only find semi rational comments on some news sites on this list http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/news-websites
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Re read my edit, I added more stuff
You raise a bunch of good points, but what is the benefit of antagonizing another group when we may be able to redirect their anger at a common foe?
Re-read my replies (2nd post) I tried it, multiple times. Didn’t work. He didn’t give a shit.
Hmmm. That sounds plausible. I guess do what works. Asianschlong it is lol
I did it on a few white girls and Asian girls, it actually did work lol but white GUYS would be quick to point out that it’s an outlier not the norm
On second thought, their [Black debater] opinion isn’t important. We’re trying to debunk stereotypes so it’s about the audience. Is the audience convinced?
Correct, it’s more about the audience but in this context (YT video comments section) that doesn’t really apply. I know that going by the +1’s, people were more convinced by me than him (who had zero +1’s)
Sometimes. It can also work against us, but I see what you’re saying.
That’s true. I’m itching for white people to use it against me so i can develop some strategies but so far, nada, zilch. White people just think we’re terrible no matter what.
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@suiko_no_shin You raise a bunch of good points, but what is the benefit of antagonizing another group when we may be able to redirect their anger at a common foe?
re:penis stereotype
Hmmm. That sounds plausible. I guess do what works. Asianschlong it is lolOn second thought, their [Black debater] opinion isn’t important. We’re trying to debunk stereotypes so it’s about the audience. Is the audience convinced?
Our status as a model minority is actually the best shield anyone could ever ask for. Even against whites.
Sometimes. It can also work against us, but I see what you’re saying.
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@secondstrike said in Black guys play by the same rules as whites:
Blacks, like all POC are oppressed mostly by one group, whites. I think it would be more efficient to turn their anger towards Whites. Maybe try something like…
That’s baloney. Black people create vicious stereotypes, live up to them and society treats them that way. It is all their own doing. They’ve had decades of positive representation, diversity campaigns, etc to the point where they’re being openly racist to everyone, have no barriers to sex (not even money is a barrier. rich attractive white girl and unemployed black man is a real thing. an old friend of mine and his friend got in on it, and they told me about it), get into colleges easier, are more prominent in movies/tv/music, etc.
It’s clear that A) they don’t want to play by society’s rules and
their lack of educational attainment compared to whites and Asians show that they don’t have the mental capacity to compete on the same level. This is further reinforced by an overall lower average IQ.That whole Oscars So White thing was ridiculous because the good performers (like Jaime Foxx, Morgan Freeman, Denzel, etc) have all earned Oscars b/c they were really that damn good. Everybody else was complaining about racism despite the fact that they did not self-evaluate their own performances and maybe think that it really wasn’t up on the same level as the other actors? Meanwhile, Asians are actually oppressed in Hollywood but black people did not bat an eyelash. Instead, they used us to make a point.
https://np.reddit.com/r/CIWO/comments/3pj0d6/small_penis_stereotype/
That’s good stuff but appeal to logic doesn’t work on black people. His idea of “facts” are based on what he sees in porn and what he assumes to be true based on his rudimentary knowledge of human anatomy. Trust me on this one. I’ve tried appeal to logic on countless black people and it’s always been down to they’re right, everyone’s wrong, facts being pulled out of asses, etc. Every single fucking time. It even happened on HAPAS for fucks sake and that thread was one of the biggest in months. It even happened with my own goddamn friend! Myself and my book/community facts just got shouted down and ignored.
Like I said in my post, going on the offensive and putting yourself first (especially using model minority) shuts them down before they can even begin. By attempting to defend yourself from the stereotype, you are making yourself to be a victim and therefore you’ve lost. By reversing the role and being the attacker, they are trapped by their own race’s failings. Our status as a model minority is actually the best shield anyone could ever ask for. Even against whites.
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I’m gonna add to this b/c I’m really bothered by this. I’ve caught black guys and it’s too many to count now.- When we had the #beingasian hashtag, one particular tweet was popular and really hit home for a lot of people, that was, until black guys dogpiled him first starting with Asian dick. It was especially uncalled for b/c the Asian guy’s tweet had nothing to do with it.
- During #beingasian, blacks came, at one point threatened to take over, a girl accused Asians of hijacking BLM and cited a couple tweets, despite the fact that I showed her vastly more white people do it, and on a consistent basis, she ignored that and blamed it on Asians (and the posts she showed me were in SUPPORT as opposed to whites who were AGAINST)
- I had an argument with this black guy who used the name of Asian Persuasion, he was being openly hostile towards Asian men, saying that Asian men/Asian female couples were a joke to him and that they would eventually fail (or he would wish it would). When I pointed out that his comments were racist and fetishizing Asian women, he said he’s black so he’s immune to racism. Not being aware of the fact that he’s being a total hypocrite.
- I caught a couple black guys from NYC saying this guy had a girl he was lusting after and they were discussing whether or not to kill the Asian BF to speed up the process
- I caught one guy from YT, again from NYC, who has a Japanese GF (an anna lu) and he was really bringing the vitriol down against Asian guys, Even got his GF into it (she claimed Asian guys have toxic masculinity).
I’m not going to defend black people. They can’t fool me. It’s too many times to count and at some point you have to stop and think that they’re not doing this out of oppression, they’re doing this to oppress. They’re doing it because they can. It is exactly that reason that I changed up my tactics and saw an immediate benefit earlier this morning.
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then launch everything negative to reduce their standing. Then ignore everything they say and continue to diminish them.
Blacks, like all POC are oppressed mostly by one group, whites. I think it would be more efficient to turn their anger towards Whites. Maybe try something like…
Penis stereotypes? Why are you regurgitating the message of your white oppressors. I’m not not your enemy. Remember,
“I Ain’t Got No Quarrel With The VietCong…No VietCong Ever Called Me Nigger.” - Malcolm XRegarding the way to combat the stereotype. Asianschlong.com can be written off as cherry picking. There are resources for that at…
if it’s in person, you don’t have time to bring up a web page so use this
http://forum.asiansoul.org/topic/427/guide-comebacks-aka-racist-whites-are-full-of-shit-so-tell-them-to-stfu [see White lie - People - Asian men all have small penises]
if it’s online, you can use this part of this.
https://np.reddit.com/r/CIWO/comments/3pj0d6/small_penis_stereotype/
http://forum.asiansoul.org/topic/337/guide-dating-guide-for-asian-men-part-3-small-asian-penis-lie-debunked [this is more comprehensive. I’d prefer you not link to this as I don’t want trolls on the forum]
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Oh, here are my replies for additional context:
Actually in my experience (as an Asian man), it’s white men that are preoccupied with penis sizes. Think about it. The big penis stereotype helps black men so why would they try to disprove that? They don’t need to say anything about it even if they have small penises and yes it happens.
Asian men are stereotyped to have smaller penises (a stereotype started by white people btw) so why would we speak out on it if it’s true? If it’s false, then we still don’t want people to talk about it b/c it’s something that we have to prove to women on our own.
This leaves us with white people. White people have smaller penises on average than black people. On the lower spectrum, they’re no better or worse than Asian. It’s advantageous for white men to undermine Asian men in order to get to Asian women where smaller penises isn’t exactly a bad thing.
Let’s refer back to your comment. You say that why do Asian men spend so much time defending their penis size? Keyword defend. Defend from who? White men. Your final statement makes no sense. The amount of people making fun of it is proportional to the amount of people defending it from people making fun of it.
Did you know that white men also did the same exact thing to Jews? They made the same exact stereotypes about them as well. Saying that they were effeminate and had small dicks. Not only that, but they were credited with creating homosexuality and feminism.
and go to the ends of the earth to try disproving something that is clearly a fact.
The thing is, it’s not a fact for EVERYBODY. Just like how it’s not a fact for all black men having big penises. Most have average size and some even have small size. Visit asianschlong.com and you tell me he has a small dick.
Because size is relative to other people, it is considered offensive to generalize an entire race, yes even black people who have the positive stereotype (b/c someone who doesn’t fit that stereotype will face discrimination).
i don’t consider myself a penis expert, but anyone with half a brain knows asian people aren’t particularly blessed in this area.
Don’t go around calling things facts when you don’t have them to back it up. If you want to stereotype Asian people for having small penis and then calling that fact, then I can also cite facts and say that black people have low IQ and are violent/aggressive. Hey it’s true. They’re facts!
it’s not that big of a deal.
It’s not that big of a deal TO YOU because YOU are NOT AFFECTED BY IT. No fucking shit. So have some goddamn empathy and shut the fuck up. Stop attacking people for what they can’t change. Don’t assume you know everything when you clearly don’t.
By the way, since this post, I put the concept into action and it works beautifully haha!
